Thursday, June 26, 2014

Selangor passes Bible buck to AG... again

3:50PM Jun 25, 2014
Selangor Menteri Besar Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said that the state is waiting for a reply from the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) on what to do with the bibles seized by the Selangor Islamic Affairs Department (Jais).

Khalid said that the state will act as soon as they get a reply from the AGC on the matter.

“On the matter of the Malay-language bibles, we are in the process of implementation and are awaiting a report from the attorney-general. We will act as soon as we get a reply,” he said at a press conference.

To a question, he also assured that the holy books have not been destroyed.

"Destroyed? No. Don't create such awful speculations," he said.

Fears that the bibles would be destroyed surfaced after Mais said it has asked for legal advise on whether the seized items can be destroyed.

Mais will continue to seize bibles

Mais chairperson Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa today also reportedly said that it will continue to seize bibles in Selangor which use the word 'Allah' as non-Muslims are banned from using it in the state.

"This process will go on and we will also make arrests," he was quoted as saying by The Malaysian Insider.

Its chairman Datuk Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa (pic) said operations to counter the distribution of such Bibles in Selangor will continue and warned that it will not hesitate to arrest those distributing it.
"This process will go on and we will also make arrests," he said in his speech at an event in the Tabung Haji Complex in Kuala Lumpur today.

Adzib also stressed that Mais will not accept the decision of Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail in the seizure of the BSM Bibles, adding that it will not return them to the BSM.
Gani decided to close the case against BSM after finding the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) had erred in the seizure of the Bibles, which he said were not a threat to national security as alleged.
- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/we-will-continue-to-seize-bibles-with-banned-words-says-muslim-body#sthash.lyH6xVFo.dpuf
The portal quoted Mohamad Adzib as warning those distributing such bibles in Selangor.

He also stressed that Mais rejects the attorney-general's findings that the holy books are not a security threat.

Mohamad Adzib was also reported by Bernama as saying that the seized bibles have been handed over to the deputy public prosecutor (DPP).

"Actually, we have the right to dispose the bibles on our own. But because we give priority to justice and harmony, we have returned them to the DPP to be brought back to the court according to procedure," the national newswire is quoted as saying.

Its chairman Datuk Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa (pic) said operations to counter the distribution of such Bibles in Selangor will continue and warned that it will not hesitate to arrest those distributing it.
"This process will go on and we will also make arrests," he said in his speech at an event in the Tabung Haji Complex in Kuala Lumpur today.

Adzib also stressed that Mais will not accept the decision of Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail in the seizure of the BSM Bibles, adding that it will not return them to the BSM.
Gani decided to close the case against BSM after finding the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) had erred in the seizure of the Bibles, which he said were not a threat to national security as alleged.
- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/we-will-continue-to-seize-bibles-with-banned-words-says-muslim-body#sthash.lyH6xVFo.dpuf

We will continue to seize Bibles with ‘banned’ words, says muslim body

The Selangor Islamic Religious Council (Mais) today insisted it will continue to seize Bibles that contained the word Allah in the state, adding that it had every right to destroy the holy books it had already seized earlier this year from the Bible Society of Malaysia (BSM).
Its chairman Datuk Mohamad Adzib Mohd Isa (pic) said operations to counter the distribution of such Bibles in Selangor will continue and warned that it will not hesitate to arrest those distributing it.
"This process will go on and we will also make arrests," he said in his speech at an event in the Tabung Haji Complex in Kuala Lumpur today.

Adzib also stressed that Mais will not accept the decision of Attorney-General Tan Sri Abdul Gani Patail in the seizure of the BSM Bibles, adding that it will not return them to the BSM.
Gani decided to close the case against BSM after finding the Selangor Islamic Religious Department (Jais) had erred in the seizure of the Bibles, which he said were not a threat to national security as alleged.
However, Mais has refused to comply with instruction from the A-G and the state government but instead said that it would be getting a court order to dispose of the holy books.
The religious council said that it will not close the case as was ordered by Gani and insisted that there is a provision in the 1988 state enactment to charge BSM.
Adzib today said that although the council would accept the A-G's decision not to prosecute BSM but it maintained that the reason given not to take action against the society was not valid.
"We accept the decision not to prosecute as it is under the purview of the A-G. But we do not agree with the reasons he gave," he added.
"On the seized Bibles, actually Jais could dispose it themselves. But because we care about harmony and justice, we leave it to the prosecutor to decide."
On January 2 this year, Jais seized the 321 AlKitab (Bahasa Malaysia Bible) and Bup Kudus (Iban-language Bible) from the then BSM office in Damansara Kim, sparking an outcry and criticisms aimed at the religious authority.
Then BSM president Lee Min Choon and office manager Sinclair Wong were detained and taken to the police station but were later released on bail.
Following the A-G's decision not to prosecute the BSM officials, and the refusal of the state religious authorities to comply, the Sultan of Selangor then ordered Jais to refer the matter to the prosecutor and the court to determine if the holy books should be returned.
Earlier today, Selangor Menteri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim, however, said no decision has been made yet on the return of the Bibles to the BSM, adding that they are waiting for advice on this from the A-G's Chambers.
He also quashed rumours that the Bibles seized have been destroyed, saying they are still being kept by Jais.
"We are writing to the Attorney-General's (A-G) Chambers on how to go about returning the Bibles," he had said. – June 25, 2014.
- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/we-will-continue-to-seize-bibles-with-banned-words-says-muslim-body#sthash.lyH6xVFo.Jais seized 321 Malay and Iban-language bibles, which use the word ‘Allah’ to refer to God, from the Bible Society Malaysia (BSM) premises in Petaling Jaya last January.
Attorney-general Abdul Gani Patail earlier this month said the case is closed and there will be no prosecution.

He also advised Selangor Islamic Affairs Council (Mais), which oversees Jais, to deal with the seized holy books “according to the law”.

Khalid then instructed his exco to assist Jais and Mais in returning the holy books, but Mais refused.

The Selangor sultan intervened by advising Jais to allow the court to decide if the holy books should be returned.

No time to talk about MB change

The state's handling of the protracted bible debacle has contributed to the groundswell criticism against the MB, with some calling for his replacement.

Even state executive council member and Selangor PAS commissioner Iskandar Samad(right) urged Pakatan to listen to the people on this issue.

Following this, PKR Youth chief Shamsul Iskandar Mohd Akin yesterday said that there is already a "consesus among Pakatan leaders" including a "majority of PAS leaders" to replace Khalid, but the transition takes time.

Asked of this, Khalid, who has said that this will be his last term as MB, declined to comment.

"My executive council (exco) and don't have time to discuss this," he said after chairing the exco meeting at the state secretariat building in Shah Alam.
~ Malaysiakini

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