In this country, every clown wants to be an ostat. Even the "Muslim" physicians - nauzubillah (May Allah protect us). My comments in blue. Read the news :
Muslim Physicians Will Amputate Limbs !
(The Sun Daily) - A group representing Muslim physicians has defied the Health Ministry and Malaysian Medical Association on the hudud issue, saying that its members will amputate limbs “in the most humane manner possible”.
Really? What in satan's name is the meaning of 'amputate limbs in the most humane manner possible'? So will the Muslim physicians also stone adulterers to death in the most humane manner? Maybe a Muslim anaesthitist will administer anaesthesia so that the adulterers will not feel the pain of stoning. In Saudi Arabia they behead people. Is there a 'most humane manner' of beheading anyone? Shouldnt there be one method as well? Can you imagine surgically removing a person's head.
Pertubuhan Ikram Malaysia president Dr Mohammed Fauzi Abdul Rani said syariah law mandates Muslim physicians to perform the surgical procedure as instructed by syariah courts and as such, Muslim physicians must abide by it.
Well first of all the physicians must satisfy themselves if these laws come from Allah. Are these really the laws of Allah? Or are they man made laws of feqah (theologians). The hudud of Pas differs from the hudud of other sects. So are these really the laws of Allah? There is no such thing as a fully written down, complete set of shariah laws anywhere in over 1400 years of Islamic history. Why?
The Muslim physicians must read the Quran first. The Quran says :
Surah 17:36 "You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."
So who told you that the hudud is from Allah? Have you checked it thoroughly?
“It will be done in the most humane manner possible, (and it will serve) as a severe lesson for the offender,” he said in a statement.
Fauzi said Muslim physicians are subservient to the higher ideals of syariah law to protect the general public.
On the Hippocratic Oath where physicians are expected to “do no harm” (primum non nocere), he said Muslim doctors are not doing any harm to a criminal who has transgressed the boundaries of social justice and has to undergo a punishment prescribed by Islamic law.
“These crimes (theft, fornication, adultery, alcohol consumption and apostasy) which threaten the social and moral order are seen as transgressing the limits set by God Himself and thus have punishments mandated in the Quran.
Obviously the Muslim physicians want to play ostat. But they speak out of ignorance of the Quran.
There is absolutely no punishment mandated in the Quran for alchohol consumption and apostasy. In the Quran there is no verse that says alchohol is haram. If anyone of you can find the verse in the Quran where the word haram is used for alchohol, then please share it here. In 27 years I have not found such a verse.
There is no punishment of stoning to death in the Quran either. The punishment of stoning people to death is found in the old Jewish Old Testament. For example :
Deuteronomy 22: 23-24 "23 If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death;
You cannot find this anywhere in the Quran.
“Hudud laws … are divinely ordained and Muslims are in no position to negate them,” he said.
I beg to differ. Hudud is sectarian. It is also based on feqah or theological jurisprudence. There is NO SUCH THING as a standard hudud law anywhere among the various sects. So the hudud is NOT "divinely" inspired.
Fauzi said Muslims had no difficulty accepting that non-Muslims have different beliefs and live their lives differently from Muslims.
“We respect and celebrate religious plurality… Please show us the same courtesy,” he added.
Hello I dont know what you guys believe in but I am a Muslim ok. 100%. I am not worried about what the non Muslims say about the hudud. This is what I am saying.
He also said that a conviction under syariah law “is extremely difficult as the benefit of doubt is in favour of the accused”.
If the conviction is so difficult then how can it be a 'divine' law? Takkan Allah would make a Law where it is so diffucult to convict crime. What kind of justice will that be? Can the Muslim physicians explain why in over 1400 years of Islamic history, despite thousands of Muslim women having been raped, not one Muslim rape victim has been able to bring FOUR MALE witnesses of good character to prove she was the victim of rape. There is NOT EVEN ONE case precedent. So in 1400 years of Islamic history, all those rapists have gone away scot free. So is that a just law? Not one rape conviction based on four adult male witnesses in 1400 years.
So is this a just law? Can this law come from Allah? Can the Muslim physicians answer the question intelligently? No need to get angry like the half educated ostats ok. You guys are doctors, trained in science. Please answer the question.
On Health Minister Datuk Seri Dr S. Subramaniam’s statement that there were no provisions under the Medical Act for such amputations, Fauzi said the act of amputation (of criminals) should not be considered a medical practice.
Ya Allah why are these people so dumb? Yes Doctor you are correct. Amputation is not medical practise. It is butchery. So are you doctors practising medicine or are you butchers? If you want to amputate peoples' hands, please give up your medical practise. Just become a butcher.
Meanwhile, Islamic Renaissance Front (IRF) director Dr Ahmad Farouk Musa described the proposal by Kelantan Deputy Mentri Besar Datuk Mohd Amar Nik Amar that surgeons amputate limbs under syariah law as “outrageous”. He said this is because the act is against medical ethics.
“This suggestion will definitely bring the entire medical profession into disrepute. The medical profession is the noblest profession on earth and to even suggest such a heinous act against another human being in the name of religion is simply callous and nefarious.”
Correct Dr Ahmad Farouk. These Muslim physicians are already giving a bad name to the medical profession. The moment they are 'Muslim' they seem to lose their senses - even the doctors.